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Who was t he biggest winner at the deadline?

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    1. Texas Rangers and the most dangerous bullpen in the American League. With closer Neftali Feliz(notes) hot and cold, Rangers GM Jon Daniels spent two top-end prospects to get the best setup man in baseball, Mike Adams(notes), and used two other major league-ready players to get another stone-cold lockdown artist, Koji Uehara(notes). With the mashing lineup, the deep bullpen and the rotation full of power arms – C.J. Wilson(notes), Alexi Ogando(notes), Colby Lewis(notes), Matt Harrison(notes) and Mr. Shutout, Derek Holland(notes) – the Rangers are unquestionable winners, the polar opposite of the …

    2. Philadelphia Phillies and not worrying about his arms – or, after the deadline, his bats. The Phillies’ trade for Hunter Pence makes them winners even if manager Charlie Manuel counteracts some of the value gain by continuing to play Raul Ibanez(notes) and shipping Domonic Brown(notes) to Triple-A. And the Phillies did trade for Pence at his apex in value, a .370 batting average on balls in play contributing greatly to his numbers this season. Still, the Phillies see holes and value their prospects accordingly: They’re fungible, for the most part, and absent of a few awful drafts – of which scouting director Marti Wolever seems incapable – there will be another crop coming soon enough. The Pence acquisition offsets the …

    3. Atlanta Braves’ blockbuster trade for Wil Nieves(notes). OK, fine. Maybe Michael Bourn(notes) is a little more important. Nieves arrived as depth for Brian McCann’s(notes) injury. Bourn comes as the near-perfect puzzle piece for the Braves. He plays center field. He hits leadoff. He’s fast. He’s an excellent defender. He’s exactly what they need, and getting Bourn without giving up one of their four stud pitching prospects makes the Braves unequivocal winners. Consequently, it makes the …

    4. Houston Astros thorough losers. And that is after getting Jonathan Singleton and Jarred Cosart, two high-upside prospects, in the trade for Pence. That the Astros would’ve been winners on that deal alone shows just how bad the Bourn deal was. To send him to Atlanta without getting at least Mike Minor(notes) or Randall Delgado(notes), let alone Julio Teheran(notes) or Arodys Vizcaino, shows a deep misunderstanding by GM Ed Wade of the proper way to rebuild: through high-end talent with a propensity to bust. Even if he is a lame duck, it’s better to fail spectacularly than die by paper cuts. And that’s what the Astros got: a whole bunch of paper cuts. Makes you wish they would’ve gone the route of the …

    5. New York Mets would’ve traded Jose Reyes. Look at some of the packages for significantly less talented players. Reyes has been the best shortstop in baseball this season, the second-best player in the National League, and for the Mets to keep him around so they can … what, tell him they really like him? Negotiate with him when it’s obvious he wants to hit free agency? Get two draft picks should he sign elsewhere? It was a well-intended move that was wrongheaded from the start, and it nullifies the great return of Zack Wheeler the Mets got from the Carlos Beltran(notes) deal to make them tweeners. They did better than their partners in financial ruin, the …

    6. St. Louis Cardinals to take on the shell of Rafael Furcal(notes). The Cardinals, inclined to win this season in case it’s Albert Pujols’(notes) and Tony LaRussa’s final hurrah, already had cemented themselves as losers when they aimed a 12-gauge at their foot and happily pulled the trigger in dealing for Edwin Jackson(notes) and a trio of relievers at the expense of Colby Rasmus(notes), whom the …

    7. San Francisco Giants, who seem perfectly content to offset their Carlos Beltran countermeasure by trading for Orlando Cabrera(notes) to play shortstop. Actually, it’s already enough of a black hole that Cabrera can’t make it much worse. It’s best to focus on Beltran, whose arrival coincided with a three-game sweep by Cincinnati, including a 9-0 beatdown Sunday in which the Giants managed just three hits. Their offense still stinks, and even if they’re winners for now, they’re just two games up on the …

    8. Toronto Blue Jays happily welcomed into their lineup. The Blue Jays inquired on just about every player available, GM Alex Anthopoulos a virtual octopus with his hands in so many places. Toronto still could chase Houston starter Wandy Rodriguez(notes) after the deadline, as the $39 million left on his contract may prevent him from getting claimed on waivers. Or Anthopoulos could sit still with a strong core, an excellent farm system and an indisputable winners tag at the deadline. Even more than the …

    9. Pittsburgh Pirates and their balance between now and what’s to come. The Pirates have dipped to third place, 4˝ games behind Milwaukee and just two above .500, but they’re close enough that trades for outfielder Ryan Ludwick(notes) and first baseman Derrek Lee came across as reasonable. It’s been 18 years since anybody called them this, so why not: The Pirates are winners. Nobody, after all, expected them to approach the deadline with the moxie of the …

    10. Cleveland Indians, who threw caution – and all of their other worldly possessions, really – to the wind in acquiring right-hander Ubaldo Jimenez. Not only are the Indians betting on Jimenez to push them past Detroit this year, they’re expecting him to anchor their rotation for two more seasons and keep them competitive in an AL Central that may be the only division with three $100 million-plus payrolls but can’t bother to have a single team outscore its opponents on the season. That includes the Indians, who mortgaged their top two starting-pitching prospects and a pair of other kids for Jimenez. Forget the criticisms: The Indians are winners, and not just because they went against type as well as convention. They saw a chance to win their division and reached for it, while the …

    11. Milwaukee Brewers can take pride in their proactivity as well as their joining the winners column. The Brewers kicked off deadline dealing season by sniping Francisco Rodriguez on the night of the All-Star game. K-Rod has thrown scoreless innings in six of his seven appearances and solidified a festering eighth-inning wound for the Brewers. When Rickie Weeks(notes) went down, GM Doug Melvin went out and acquired Felipe Lopez(notes) and Jerry Hairston Jr. World beaters they aren’t. Cheap fill-ins, in this instance, are fine. The Brewers have enough pop to make up for it, an attribute the …

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    I find it hard to believe you'd include the Pirates over the Jays in the poll. The Pirates got nothing. Derrek Lee and Ryan Ludwick are the absolute worst hitters at their positions.

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    Its only because u can only have 10 choices, i put them in the summaries though so its not like people cant vote for them, just say u vote blue jays but i dont think they're even top 5 in deadline winners as it is! Besides my logic was Pirates are in a huge division race, and at best Toronto would get a wildcard spot but i highly doubt it with Yankees and Boston and even Tampa Bay ahead of them.

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    What's Derrek Lee and Ryan Ludwick going to do for the Pirates, exactly?

    Anyway. For the short-term, Texas wins. The Braves also win by retaining their top prospects and stealing Bourn. Long-term, the Jays stole Colby Rasmus. I also like a lot what the Indians did.

    Saying the Jays not top-5 in terms of what they acquired is very narrow-minded. Trades not only affect the short-term, but they affect the long-term as well.

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    I dont like what the Indians did. There something fishy with Jiminez. I hear there are potential issues with his arm.

    I like what the Rangers did, and the Braves. Based on value, the Braves probably won imo.

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    Also Jays for sure win long term, gave up middling relievers for potential all star at CF.

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    yes jays win longterm we all know about Rasmus but i relaly dont see that Jays team winning in the near future of 3-5 years not with NY, TB, an Boston all in that division constantly winning.

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    Nice of you to be paying attention that the Jays talent all comes in in two years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chitownhero14 View Post
    yes jays win longterm we all know about Rasmus but i relaly dont see that Jays team winning in the near future of 3-5 years not with NY, TB, an Boston all in that division constantly winning.
    Toronto can easily pass TB within the next two seasons, as well as the Yankees if they continue to scrap together a starting rotation. Toronto has so many assets its ridiculous. im excited for our young arms to graduate

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    Braves and Rangers did the best to me b/c they got key pieces for their Playoff pushes without giving up any key pieces going forward but I love what the Blue Jays did too b/c they're slowly stealing some really good players from teams to build going forward. If they can snag a big FA or over the next 2 years they could become a legit team. I like what the Pirates did with Lee and Ludwick only b/c they're cheap guys to help them try n win while they're doing good n they didn't have to give up anything significant to get them
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